Monday, December 10, 2007

Make Free iPhone Ringtones using iTunes 7.5

Since Apple was good enough to "break" their fix for creating free ringtones in iTunes 7.5, I figured I would go ahead and type up a quick how-to on creating your own ringtone. The trick is that you need to pick a file that is 30 seconds long or less. 30 seconds is plenty since your phone won't play any more than that anyway ... not to mention that iTunes won't transfer the song if it is over 30 seconds using this method. So now the problem is getting your hands on a 30 second clip from a song. Sure you could buy some nice little program or use a tool like Audacity to trim off a segment. But honestly, you can just use what is in front of you ... iTunes itself. I'll show you really quick how to make a 30 second clip in iTunes and then tell you what to do with that to make it a ringtone.

First off, you need to go into your iTunes preferences and make sure that you have the AAC converter turned on. To check, go into the iTunes preferences and click on the 'Advanced' tab. Click the 'Importing' tab and under 'Import Using' should say 'AAC Encoder'.



It's all set right? Sweet! Now pick a song that you want to get a 30 second clip from. Right click on the song and select 'Get Info' from the menu.



Just for simplicity sake, lets just say that you want the first 30 seconds of the song. You will click on the 'Options' tab and change the Start and Stop time. Click the checkboxes and change the Stop time to 0:30. Feel free to use any 30 second segment that you wish. Just note the start time and add 30 seconds to it for the stop time.



The hard part is done! Now just exit out of the 'Get Info' screen and right click on the song that you just modified and select 'Convert Selection to AAC' from the menu. Let iTunes work it's magic.



You will get a second song in your iTunes library ... but it will only be 30 seconds long! You can right click and select 'Get Info' and change some tags to make it easier to find in your iTunes library. I like to change the artist and genre to 'Ringtones' so that I know right where to find it.



Exit iTunes. Locate the file in your iTunes music directory and rename the .m4a extension to .m4r.



Once you have renamed the file, just double click on it so that it adds itself to your iTunes library again ... but this time as a ringtone!! iTunes will launch, and the ringtone you just created will appear in the Ringtones list. If for some reason you are having an issue with this the first time, you might want to check in your iTunes preferences and see if you have the “Keep iTunes Music Folder Organized” option checked. Having that checked will automatically create a ringtone folder for you.



An alternative to the double click method is to simply open iTunes, open your ringtones library and then drag the .m4r file from windows explorer or finder (on mac) into the ringtone library. Either method should work.

A lot easier than it seems. Let's see how long this lasts for. Maybe apple will realize they made a "mistake". Let's hope that it is just an effort to keep the masses happy. I for one make most of my ringtones from movie quotes. Can't do that with the official 99 cent way. Keep rockin' ding dongs!


Q&A with Head Honcho (aka "I followed your steps but ...")
Q: I try to sync, but I get multiple versions of the same ringtone. What's the deal?
1. On the iPhone summary tab, uncheck the box for "Manually manage music and video"

2. On the iPhone Ringtones tab, check the box for "Sync Ringtones" and the radio button for "All Ringtones".

3. Sync ... your ringtones should be there.
Q: I have made a ringtone, but when I sync, it is not on the iPhone. Does that suck or what?
Yeah ... it does. Make sure that you have entries for Name, Artist and Album supplied for the ringtone. Doesn't have to be correct ... it just has to be there.
Q: I try and sync, but I get a message that says that I can't play this song on my iPhone.
This is probably due to the version of the firmware that you have and the version of iTunes that you are using. Try upgrading iPhone firware and iTunes to the latest versions or both.
Q: I try to use an M4P file and it tells me that it is protected. What is that all about?
Sorry, the file is protected ... nothing you can do about that. You can either find a piece of software that will strip the protection ... OR ... burn the song to a CD and then reimport it into iTunes as an AAC file.
Q: I can't see any file extensions. What do I do?
Windows users:

Open your windows explorer and select Tools-->Folder Options from the menu. Click on the View tab and uncheck the box that says "Hide extensions for known file types". Then click the "Apply to All Folders" button at the top of the screen.

Mac users:

Open finder and select song. Right click and select 'Get Info'. Under the Name and Extension segment, uncheck the box that says 'Hide Extension'. Extension is also visible there at all times, so you can always just edit on the spot.


*** UPDATE ***
For those of you that are experiencing a "worked the first time, but not the next" problem, Jonah posted a comment on how to get around the issue. It sounds like a good solution, so I'm incorporating it into the article here. Thanks Jonah!

"I think I found a fix. I did everything according to your directions (including the space before the extension). When I double click to get the m4r file, it still goes to the library and not the ringtone file. But, what I learned is, highlight the 30 second m4r file that isn't going to ringtone and is in your library and delete it. A message will come up asking, "Do you want to move the selected songs to the Trash, or keep them in the iTunes Music folder?" Click "Keep Files." Then go back and look in the folder and you will see the m4r file still there. Double click on it again and this time it will work. It has worked everytime."

**** UPDATE!!! ****
This process still works in iTunes 7.6.
Also this continues to work in iTunes 7.7 and iPhone 2.0!!!
So keep on rockin' it yo!

**** ANOTHER UPDATE!!! ****
For those people that are using iTunes 7.6 with iPhone 1.1.3 and are having issues with the sync, I tweaked my steps a little based on Jonah's comments and some forum postings I found. Poster Beegs then was gracious enough to tweak those steps ever so slightly and it works fine for him now. Here are those steps:

My original steps for 7.6/1.1.3
1. Under Edit-->Preferences-->Advanced, check the boxes for "Keep iTunes music folder organized" and "Copy files to iTunes music folder when adding to library"
2. Follow my steps on creating the 30 second clip and converting to AAC.
3. Delete the newly created AAC file from the iTunes library. Do NOT move the file to the trash.
4. Find the file in your iTunes music directory and move it to your desktop.
5. Rename the file extension from myringtone.m4a to myringtone.m4r (substitute 'myringtone' for whatever you want the ringtone called).
6. Double click on the .m4r file.
7. When iTunes comes back on screen, look in the iPhone ringtones tab to verify that the file is there (Do not sync!)
8. Find the file again in your iTunes Music/Ringtones Directory.
9. Rename the file from myringtone.m4r to myringtone.m4a
10. Sync

Beeg's steps that he says works for him
1. Under Edit-->Preferences-->Advanced, check the boxes for "Keep iTunes music folder organized" and "Copy files to iTunes music folder when adding to library"
2. Follow my steps on creating the 30 second clip and converting to AAC.
3. Delete the newly created AAC file from the iTunes library. Do NOT move the file to the trash.
4. Exit iTunes
5. Find the file in your iTunes music directory and move it to your desktop.
6. Rename the file extension from myringtone.m4a to myringtone.m4r (substitute 'myringtone' for whatever you want the ringtone called).
7. Double click on the .m4r file.
8. When iTunes comes back on screen, look in the iPhone ringtones tab to verify that the file is there
9. Sync

242 comments:

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Anonymous said...

Thanks for the tip, however, I tried it and it didn't work for me. I have iTunes 7.5 and after I renamed the file from .m4a to .m4r (and then double-clicked it to launch iTunes) it only adds the new file to the library and not the Ringtones folder. Bummer. Would've been awesome if it worked, because like you, I have tons of movie quotes I wanted to use. Please post if you know how to get around this silliness.

Head Honcho said...

I've never had these steps not work. I would be more than happy to tinker around and see if there is a combination of steps that would make it fail though. I'll post another comment as soon as I figure out what may be causing you the issue.

Head Honcho said...

I don't think that the problem is Mac vs Win related as I can get the steps to work on both platforms. I don't think it is iPhone specific either since I've seen this work on firmware version 1.1.1, 1.1.2 and a jailbroken 1.1.1 phone. I've tried a variety of different things as far as the steps are concerned. They all have worked. The only suggestion that I can think of is instead of double clicking the m4r file and allowing it to launch iTunes on its own and place it in the ringtone library ... launch iTunes on your own and open the ringtones library and then drag the m4r file you created from windows explorer or finder (if on Mac) into the ringtone library. Both methods worked for me, so hopefully one of them could work for you. Let me know if that works or not.

Head Honcho said...

One other thing you could try is to go into your iTunes library and add a folder called 'Ringtones'. Then try to double click the m4r or drag it into the ringtone library.

Head Honcho said...

One last thing to try is to put a space in front of the .m4r ... so 'ringtone.m4r' should be 'ringtone .m4r'. I did find a machine that didn't accept the double click, but by putting the space in front of the .m4r, it worked like a charm.

Anonymous said...

Awesome! This worked great for me.

The only steps I did differently was creating a small audio clip with an audio editor.

Importing the ringtone worked best for me when I made sure to close iTunes *first*, then rename the .m4a to m4r, then double-clicking on the re-named file to automatically import it to the ringtones folder.

iPhone v.1.1.2
iTunes v.7.5.0.20
Win XP

Mark said...

I wasn't getting it to work at first, but following the above comment's tip and closing Itunes before double clicking the new .m4r file did the trick.

Head Honcho said...

@mark: Super sweet! Glad it is working out for you.

tyson said...

i tried using the above tips and everything but it isn't working. I'm not able to drag into the library and when i double click it adds it to my general library not my ringtones folder. I have a macbook and itunes 7.5. Any more suggestions??

Jonah said...

I tried it also on my MacBook Pro and it was a no-go. ITunes 7.5, IPhone 1.1.2

Head Honcho said...

@tyson ... I had the same issue on one of my macs ... an old G4 powerbook. The trick on that one was to put a space in front of the .m4r. For example, I had a file called 'metropolis.m4r' that would not add itself through a double click or drag into the ringtone library. I read someplace once that having a space after the name and before the extension meant to iTunes that the file was a custom ringtone. So I added the space into 'metropolis.mr4' and made it 'metropolis .mr4' (without the quotes) ... notice the space ... and double clicked and it added itself just fine. I tried the same thing with a different file and dragged it in with the same results. Maybe that helps?

Head Honcho said...

@jonah ... which part was a bust? The creation, the add or the sync? Seems like iTunes is very picky when it comes to actually syncing ... 30 sec max. In addition, there seems to be about a 3mb file size limit for the actual creation of the ringtone. I noticed that if the file size was much bigger than that, the import as a ringtone into iTunes failed. No error or anything like that ... but it just didn't add itself as a ringtone. It would find itself into the music library though.

Head Honcho said...

Just as an FYI ... if anyone has a jailbroken iPhone, you can use installer to add an app called SendSong that can add any song on your iPhone as a ringtone.

Jonah said...

I actually got it to work just recently by adding the space before ".m4r." But, just as soon as I got it figured it out it wouldn't work again. I have tried with the space and without the space before the extension, and it doesn't matter. I even restarted my computer and that didn't help. I also cut the 30 seconds to 10 to see if that would help and it didn't. On every occurrence but one, it goes to the library and not "ringtones."

hoopaholic364 said...

ya I tried the space thing as well but no go.it keeps going straight to the library maybe I'll try restarting my MacBook or shorten the length. Thanks for the help if u think of anything else let me kno.

Head Honcho said...

Well gang ... don't know if I can be of much further help diagnosing what may be happening on your particular computers. I have about 6 computers at my disposal and they all work with the basic instructions except for one ... and that one just needed the space trick to make it work. Without one that fails, it is hard for me to figure out your issue. I can maybe steer you towards a different mechanism for loading the tones onto your iPhone. There is two good ways that I know of if you are on a mac. The first is a product called iToner from Ambrosia Software (http://www.ambrosiasw.com/utilities/itoner/). It will set you back $15 US. The second method is a freebie from Rogue Amoeba called MakeiPhoneRingTone (http://www.ambrosiasw.com/utilities/itoner/). Neither one will handle the segmenting of the clip, but they will both handle the sync portion. I think MakeiPhoneRingTone basically follows the same steps that I've listed, but it does the renaming and importing for you. Ambrosia also makes a nice product called Fission. Audio editor that is very nice ... again ... for mac only and costs cash money. So try using the iTunes method of trimming out a 30 second m4a clip, don't bother renaming the file, and try and use MakeiPhoneRingTone to make the move of the file if the basic import steps aren't working on your particular machine. There may be something for windows that can accomplish the same thing ... I don't know ... I haven't looked.



If anyone has any suggestions for those that are having issues with the import to iTunes, please post a comment. Anything that you can offer will help. Maybe a windows expert can comment on what product can sync a ringtone to an iPhone. I'm all about the free! I know that you can create and add a ringtone now from the latest version of garageband ... but I for one don't have the latest mac OS nor will I be buying an upgrade to iLife just for that work around.



Hmmm ... could this be an issue with intel based macs only?? For those that this is failing for ... intel or powerpc? Tiger or Leopard?

Jonah said...

I am using Mac OS X version 10.4.11. Your directions worked for one song and that was the first try. After that, it hasn't worked.

Jonah said...

Yep, mine is intel

Jonah said...

I think I found a fix. I did everything according to your directions (including the space before the extension). When I double click to get the m4r file, it still goes to the library and not the ringtone file. But, what I learned is, highlight the 30 second m4r file that isn't going to ringtone and is in your library and delete it. A message will come up asking, "Do you want to move the selected songs to the Trash, or keep them in the iTunes Music folder?" Click "Keep Files." Then go back and look in the folder and you will see the m4r file still there. Double click on it again and this time it will work. It has worked everytime.

Head Honcho said...

@Jonah ... awesome! I'm glad it works!

Ishita said...

Hey! I have an unlocked version... so i have itunes 7.5.0.20 and software 1.1.1

I tried pretty much everything in the thread! It told me it couldnt play it on this iphone so i changed it to 25 secs and then changed the extension from m4r (which wouldnt sync) to m4a again cos i had read that somewhere and it synced but it isnt on my ipod?? anymore suggestions.... Strum is driving me mad! Please Help xx

Head Honcho said...

Since m4a isn't a ringtone format, so it won't be available as a ringtone. It might sync as a normal song however. Was the original sound file a DRM protected file maybe?? I've read in a few places that ringtones made this was from a DRM file was a bust usually. Other than that, I'm not sure ... maybe phone related since you are using an unlocked phone perhaps? Try it again and use a file that you know doesn't have DRM on it. See if that works.

Head Honcho said...

Another thing I thought of ... if you are using windows, make sure that you are viewing files with the extension on them in explorer. I say that because if you are not viewing extensions and you are adding .m4r on to the file name, you will wind up with a file that is actually called 'ringtone.m4r.m4a'. Also make sure that you are converting files into the AAC format and are not just cutting down an MP3 and changing the extension to .m4r.

Rustin said...

Using iTunes 7.5 and a pc running xp. Had to use the "filename .m4r" trick. Worked for one song so far, haven't tried a second. iTunes moves the file out of your music library and into the ringtones library, thus creating an exclamation point next to the file in the playlist. I just deleted it from the music playlist instead of trying to locate it.

Anonymous said...

i got it to work once and now when i go to options to make it into the 30 second fragment, i doesnt add to my library. do you know how to fix this ??

Jonah said...

anonymous,

read my last reply because I found a way to correct your problem

Anonymous said...

PLEASE HELP, I CAN NOT FIND THE ITUNES MUSIC DIRECTORY TO CHANGE THE FILE NAME??? THANK YOU VERY MUCH!!!

Anonymous said...

Hello, I too do not know where or how to change the file name? Anyone can help? Thanks

Anonymous said...

Hello, can someone please help me with this, when i go into my documents,my music, itunes,itunes music,unknown artist, unknown album, that is where my 30 second clip is but there is not extension on it for me to change. I must be in the wrong place? I am lost, Please help silly ol me :(

Head Honcho said...

The easiest way to find out where the iTunes library is on your particular computer is to open the preferences in iTunes and go to the Advanced tab. There you will find the General tab which tells you where your iTunes library is stored. I think the default is in the My Documents/My Music/iTunes directory under your user account (for windows users anyways).

Anonymous said...

I found the 30 second clip but there is no extension on it for me to change, and I added m4r but it just goes in my music library?

Head Honcho said...

To change your file extension, you first need to be able to see them. You should open your windows explorer and select Tools-->Folder Options from the menu. Click on the View tab and uncheck the box that says "Hide extensions for known file types". Then click the "Apply to All Folders" button at the top of the screen. Windows will prompt you to see if you want all folders to match the current view settings ... click Yes. Then click the OK button and you are all done. Navigate to the file in question and you should now see the extension.

Anonymous said...

1st off thank you very much for answering me, I did go to tools in internet explorer, but I dont see folder options or view tabs anywhere. I'm hopeless :(

Head Honcho said...

Nope ... not internet explorer ... Windows explorer.

Anonymous said...

ok, I did it, it went into my ring tone on itunes, but when i plugged i phone in, it said was not updated because it could not find it? No matter what, you are great :)

Anonymous said...

Hi all, Head Honcho or anyone with this knowledge, My ring tones are spiratic meaning somtimes they work when they are supposed to and sometimes they dont, any ideas? Thanks all

Head Honcho said...

If the song can't be found, then it may not be there because it was removed on accident? If you are removing it via the workaround that Jonah provided, make sure that you aren't actually deleting it and that you are just removing it from iTunes. You get two prompts ... one will ask if you want to remove it from iTunes and then the next one will ask it you want to move it to the trash. Maybe look in your trash bin and see if it is there. If so, restore the file and try again.

Head Honcho said...

When you say that your rintones work sporadically ... is that to say they only create sporadically or sync sporadically? If it is the creation that is sporadic, try Jonah's tip.

Anonymous said...

Hi Guys, Anyone know if there are other things other than ring tones for the iphone, games, programs, ect? Thanks in advance!

Head Honcho said...

The isn't any games or programs available for the iPhone unless you use an online application or you jailbreak your phone. You can probably google "games for iphone" and find a bunch of sites that have web based games.

I would imagine that come Feb, there may be a lot of native applications or games available once the developer SDK for iPhone comes out and is available for programmers.

Anonymous said...

Thank you for answering, would you not suggest jailbreaking a phone, It is new so if anything goes wrong with it, I would be bringing it back to apple & not sure how they would look at things?

Head Honcho said...

I think that at this point, trying to jailbreak your phone isn't worth it. The current process of jailbreaking is a bit complicated. If it were me and I had just recently purchased a new iPhone, I would probably wait out the month and see what happens with the iPhone SDK. If you do decide to jailbreak, you can always simply restore your iPhone using iTunes.

Anonymous said...

hi honcho i was reading what you were saying,,,, what is sdk if you dont mind me asking

Head Honcho said...

SDK stands for software development kit. Apple is opening up development for the iPhone sometime in Feb. That means that programmers can finally create native applications for the iPhone without the need to jailbreak. How much freedom programmers will have once the SDK is released has yet to be determined. I'm sure there will be limitations, but anything will be nice at this point.

Anonymous said...

U R THE MUTHA F-ING MAN...IVE BEEN TRYIN 2 DO THIS IPHONE RINGTONES THIS FOR THE LONGEST WITHOUT PAYIN N URS IS THE ONLY ONE THAT WORKED, MY CPU WOULDNT EVEN LET ME JAILBREAK MY IPHONE SO THANKX ALOT......
ALL HAIL HEAD HONCHO LOL

Anonymous said...

hi, can anyone please tell me, i doubt it matters that i have the iphone, but in itunes i wanted to check for album artwork, but there is a warning saying info about songs with missing artwork will be sent to apple, is this something i should worry about, most of my songs i obviously didnt pay for, not that i have too many but still. ty

Anonymous said...

I having the worst trouble getting the ringtone saved and everything I tried all of this and it just does not seem to to work I have Itunes 7.5 is there something different that I might need to do or whatever PLEASE HELP ME OUT SO I CAN GET THIS UP AND GOING!!!!

Anonymous said...

If you follow everything from above, it works! Where are you having trouble?

Head Honcho said...

Can't say if I've ever seen a warning when I've retrieved artwork from iTunes. Anyone else ever experience that?

I'm not sure if things like where you got the song from is tracked. Not really sure if they actually care. I honestly don't think that they would ever spend the time to police something like that nor do I think that there is anything specifically watermarked on a sound file that can accurately pin ownership to an individual. Maybe I'm wrong. I think I read someplace once that the iTunes store might watermark a file purchased through them with your iTunes account info. I have no idea if that is a bunch of crap or not. I'm not scared to update my artwork. If you really are concerned, you can use any mechanism that you want to update that artwork. Google Image Search is a great place to start. Never had a problem finding artwork using it ... even really obscure stuff. I have had problems finding artwork in iTunes though. If the album name doesn't match what they have exactly, then it won't find the image. I'd say 90% of the time I hit google, amazon or cduniverse first for images.

Head Honcho said...

What is it that you are having a problem with? If you can provide your steps, maybe someone can tell you where you are getting of the path.

I having the worst trouble getting the ringtone saved and everything I tried all of this and it just does not seem to to work I have Itunes 7.5 is there something different that I might need to do or whatever PLEASE HELP ME OUT SO I CAN GET THIS UP AND GOING!!!!

Anonymous said...

Once again, you need to explain your steps so we can see where you are going wrong.

Anonymous said...

thanks hh, now that i can find the albums artwork, how do i input it so i can get it on the iphone? thanks again

Head Honcho said...

Well ... pretty easy actually. If you are getting the artwork from iTunes, it will automatically update the ID3 tag for you. If you are finding the artwork via the internet, you will need to manually insert it into the songs ID3 tag. You do that by right clicking on a song and selecting "Get Info" from the menu and then click on the 'Artwork" tab. You can then drag an image from the internet into the artwork section and the tag will update. If you haven't added the song to a playlist that you are syncing to the iPhone, do so. Once you sync, the artwork will appear in the cover flow or album view.

thanks hh, now that i can find the albums artwork, how do i input it so i can get it on the iphone? thanks again

Head Honcho said...

FYI ... still works in iTunes 7.6!

bsims said...

I am having trouble dragging and dropping the mva file into ITunes 7.6 help please.

Head Honcho said...

I would say that you are probably having a problem with that because iTunes doesn't know what an mva file is ... I don't know what it is either. :)

You need to use an aac (.m4a) encoded song and change the extension to m4r. Start with the initial instructions and then if you run into any problems, check your specific issue against the hints in the comments that people have left. See if you have the 'Keep iTunes Music Folder Organized' parameter set. If it isn't, you may need to manually create the Ringtones folder yourself. I would start there. If no luck there, read what Noah commented as it seems to work for most (I tacked it on at the end of my instructions just to make it easier).

I am having trouble dragging and dropping the mva file into ITunes 7.6 help please.

Anonymous said...

I managed to edit my mp3 files, rename and convert them no problems. Running XP and iTunes 7.6, I add them to iTunes and they go to the ringtone folder on my pc and can be played no problems. Issue I have is when I sync them to my iPhone they don't go over! Anyone any ideas?

Head Honcho said...

The only thing that I've seen that prevented the transfer was the rintone was more than 30 seconds. As a test, drop the length to about 25 seconds and see what happens. Do you actually see the ringtone on the phone and it doesn't play, or does it just flat not transfer? Do you get any sort of error?

Anonymous said...
I managed to edit my mp3 files, rename and convert them no problems. Running XP and iTunes 7.6, I add them to iTunes and they go to the ringtone folder on my pc and can be played no problems. Issue I have is when I sync them to my iPhone they don't go over! Anyone any ideas?

Head Honcho said...

Just to clarify, you took an MP3 and converted it to an AAC file correct?

Anonymous said...
I managed to edit my mp3 files, rename and convert them no problems. Running XP and iTunes 7.6, I add them to iTunes and they go to the ringtone folder on my pc and can be played no problems. Issue I have is when I sync them to my iPhone they don't go over! Anyone any ideas?

Anonymous said...

Correct I converted an Mp3 file to AAC and the file runs to approx 28 secs. It "appears" to transfer in iTunes on the PC ( the file is greyed in the ringtone folder on the iPhone) however when I browse ringtones on the phone to assign it to someone it is not there!

Head Honcho said...

Was the song that you selected to use DRM free? Just curious. I haven't run into this issue, but then again, all my music is DRM free. Have you gone into the Ringtones Library and played the ringtone from within iTunes? Does it play or does it ask you to authorize it?

Anonymous said...
Correct I converted an Mp3 file to AAC and the file runs to approx 28 secs. It "appears" to transfer in iTunes on the PC ( the file is greyed in the ringtone folder on the iPhone) however when I browse ringtones on the phone to assign it to someone it is not there!

Anonymous said...

Please help!
I have itunes 1.6 and the latest iphone software 1.1.3
After following all of the steps, i just get the 30 second acc file in my library not as a ringtone in itunes.
I've tried making a ringtones folder, deleting the file and choosing keep file again, closing itunes and doulble clicking the .m4r file, and just dragging the file in the ringtones file, and NONE of that worked. The 20 second file just keeps going into my library.

Anyone, Any ideas?!?!?!?!

Head Honcho said...

I had that same issue on one of my computers. A space before the .m4r took care of that. So 'ringtone.m4r' would become 'ringtone .m4r'. The space tells iTunes that it is a custom ringtone. It should appear in the ringtones library after you rename it and double click it (although you may want to close iTunes first).

Anonymous said...
Please help!
I have itunes 1.6 and the latest iphone software 1.1.3
After following all of the steps, i just get the 30 second acc file in my library not as a ringtone in itunes.
I've tried making a ringtones folder, deleting the file and choosing keep file again, closing itunes and doulble clicking the .m4r file, and just dragging the file in the ringtones file, and NONE of that worked. The 20 second file just keeps going into my library.

Anyone, Any ideas?!?!?!?!

Anonymous said...

if you can't see the file extension go to folder options and deselect hide known file extensions... it took me a minute to figure that out too... i felt retarded

Jeff said...

"if you can't see the file extension go to folder options and deselect hide known file extensions"

That's a big tip for windows users. I had to do the same thing.

This tip worked like a charm. Thanks for helping me keep from paying for ringtones when I own the CD in the first place.

Anonymous said...

This process worked like a charm as far as getting the ringtone into my ringtones list, but for some reason i cant get the new ringtone to sync onto my phone! tried renaming the extension, renaming the file, all to no avail! has anyone had this problem? the ringtone won't sync onto my phone. im using itunes 7.6 and firmware 1.1.3. so close..yet.. so... far....

Anonymous said...

same problem i have a fully upgraded itunes and fully upgraded iphone and i did all the steps took me like 2 hous to read all the posts @.@ but i got it in the ringtones part for itunes and i sync it but it dosent go through i also try to sync only that ring tone and it still dosent work the ringtone is 22 sec log and is DMR free any clues?

Head Honcho said...

Try turning the phone off and back on or resetting the phone by holding down the home and power button. I sometimes have to do that when all my calls start playing that 'marimba' ringtone by default.

Anonymous said...

can anyone tell me, I just left apple store, they told me the new update allows more programs for the iPhone. So one doesn't have to jailbreak, I did get ringtones from by method, if I update will I lose those ring tones and or lose the ability to get more? Thank you vm

Head Honcho said...

The new update doesn't allow you to add new programs so that you don't have to jailbreak. The new update adds some features to the iPhone that had been missing ... like SMS to multiple people, a new version of maps, the addition of webclips and a adjustable springboard. You can't add any native apps unless you jailbreak. Wait for the SDK and see what becomes available then. As far as upgrading is concerned, you shouldn't lose any ringtones. Even if you did, you still could just re-sync them.

Anonymous said...
can anyone tell me, I just left apple store, they told me the new update allows more programs for the iPhone. So one doesn't have to jailbreak, I did get ringtones from by method, if I update will I lose those ring tones and or lose the ability to get more? Thank you vm

Anonymous said...

you are good, would i still be able to dl more tones if i upgrade? would you suggest upgrading? They told me at the store if i did a jailbreak, that would void the warrenty, i would think i could just reset it and no one would know?

Head Honcho said...

I've never been the type of person that upgrades anything right off the bat. Being a long time windows user, I've been burned several times doing upgrades only to find out that something else no longer worked. I generally feel pretty good about apple updates ... but when it comes to iPhone stuff, I like to wait a couple weeks. I let my buddies upgrade and let them put it through its paces first. That way I learn from their mistakes. I personally like having my own ringtones, so I want to make sure it continues to work after an upgrade before I do it myself. I've upgraded my iTunes on all my machines, but not the iPhone as of yet. I know the ringtone stuff still works because my friends have used my process on their fully upgraded iTunes and iPhone with no issues.

As far as voiding the warranty ... you can always restore and no one would be the wiser. Now if you were popping the case open to do something stupid, then you are hosed.

Anonymous said...
you are good, would i still be able to dl more tones if i upgrade? would you suggest upgrading? They told me at the store if i did a jailbreak, that would void the warrenty, i would think i could just reset it and no one would know?

Anonymous said...

Need some help. I've got the .m4r working and I've created 4 ringtones that live in my ringtones library in iTunes. But when I try to drag them to my iPhone (not syncing, but managing manually), I just get 4 copies one ringtone - usually the first one I dragged over.

Is it possible to have more than one custom ringtone on your iPhone?

Head Honcho said...

You can definitely have more than one custom ringtone. I have about 40. The manual update is something new with iTunes 7.6. I would just try to do the ringtone sync the old way by enabling Sync Ringtones on the Ringtones Tab for the iPhone. If anyone else is syncing ringtones manually and can give a few words of advice, please feel free to do so.

Someone I know mentioned to me that you should always make sure that the ringtones have the Name, Artist and Album filled in with something (anything ... doesn't need to be accurate) to ensure that it plays on the phone. I've never run into this because I have always stuck the word "ringtone" into the artist and album fields so that I could find them later (Name is populated with what I want the ringtone to be called). Maybe check that and see if that helps.

anonymous said...
Need some help. I've got the .m4r working and I've created 4 ringtones that live in my ringtones library in iTunes. But when I try to drag them to my iPhone (not syncing, but managing manually), I just get 4 copies one ringtone - usually the first one I dragged over.

Is it possible to have more than one custom ringtone on your iPhone?

Anonymous said...

RE: Problem with multiple versions of same ringtone in iPhone with manually managing:

Thanks for the quick response. I tried syncing the ringtones, but although they show up in my iTunes Ringtone folder, they won't copy over to my iPhone when I sync them in the "Ringtones" tab.

I can get each one to play individually on the phone by dragging them over from my iTunes ringtone playlist, but if I drag more than one song over, I just get multiple copies of the same ringtone in my settings/sounds menu.

Head Honcho said...

I found a post on MacForum where the person had the same exact issue that you are having. Also on 1.1.3 firmware. They solved the problem by using the Ringtones sync the old way ... but they had to uncheck the "Manually Manage Music and Videos" option on the iPhone summary tab. As long as that was checked, they got duplicate ringtones on the iPhone no matter what sync method they used. Maybe this is a bug with iTunes 7.6 / iPhone 1.1.3? Double check and see if you turn off the manual option and sync via ringtone tab, maybe you will have success.


anonymous said...
RE: Problem with multiple versions of same ringtone in iPhone with manually managing:

Thanks for the quick response. I tried syncing the ringtones, but although they show up in my iTunes Ringtone folder, they won't copy over to my iPhone when I sync them in the "Ringtones" tab.

I can get each one to play individually on the phone by dragging them over from my iTunes ringtone playlist, but if I drag more than one song over, I just get multiple copies of the same ringtone in my settings/sounds menu.

LG said...

Ok so ive managed to get my tune down to 30 secs, then change it to a M4R file which opens up in2 my itunes ringtone tab. It lets me choose what i wanna sync (either sync all ringtones or selected) then it acts like its syncin ...... i go to my fone, look under ringtones and theres nothing there .......please can some1 help i cant stand the ringtones thats on the iphone !!!!

Prashanth said...

Thanks a lot head honcho... it works on 1.1.2 ... I am very happy.
Super work....

Anonymous said...

Confirmed!

Head Honcho said...

I found a post on MacForum where the person had the same exact issue that you are having. Also on 1.1.3 firmware. They solved the problem by using the Ringtones sync the old way ... but they had to uncheck the "Manually Manage Music and Videos" option on the iPhone summary tab. As long as that was checked, they got duplicate ringtones on the iPhone no matter what sync method they used. Maybe this is a bug with iTunes 7.6 / iPhone 1.1.3? Double check and see if you turn off the manual option and sync via ringtone tab, maybe you will have success.

Arthur said...

Hey,
I'm runing Vista, and the only thing I can't do is change the m4a to m4r???

Tried changing settings in Vista, but in the windows directory there is no way to change the file extention.

Anyone can help by any chance?

art l

Head Honcho said...

apparently Microsoft thinks that no one cares about the file menu anymore so they hide it. You will have to turn it on to have the option to see the file extensions. When you are in your vista explorer, click the organize button. A sub-menu will popup. Click 'Layout' and then 'Menu Bar'. You will get the menu bar back at that point. To see the file extensions, you need to click Tools-->Folder Options from the menu bar. Click on the View tab and uncheck the box that says "Hide extensions for known file types".

Arthur said...
Hey,
I'm runing Vista, and the only thing I can't do is change the m4a to m4r???

Tried changing settings in Vista, but in the windows directory there is no way to change the file extention.

Anyone can help by any chance?

art l

Anonymous said...

CAN ANYONE TELL ME, IF I DO THE NEW DL FROM APPLE FOR IPHONE AND ITUNES, CAN I STILL DO A JAILBREAK? TY

Head Honcho said...

I think someone has in fact figured out how to jailbreak 1.1.3 very recently. Word is that it is a very complex process and no one has released any instructions from what I understand do to it's complexity. Maybe google 1.1.3 jailbreak and see what you can find. Good luck.

anonymous said...
CAN ANYONE TELL ME, IF I DO THE NEW DL FROM APPLE FOR IPHONE AND ITUNES, CAN I STILL DO A JAILBREAK? TY

Anonymous said...

to do it there is a hardware change

Anonymous said...

To install ringtones with iTunes 7.6 and iPhone 1.3, after creating the .m4r files, I moved them to the desktop, deleted the file from iTunes, and then drug the .m4r into the Ringtone folder. It worked!

Anonymous said...

I have Vista with iTunes 7.6 and iPhone 1.1.3. I successfully synced the ringtone to my iphone and it shows up in Custom Ringtones, but when I try to play it, there is nothing but silence. I tried turning phone on and off but nothing! Has anyone had this problem and a fix for it? I tried looking through the older posts but I couldn't find anything!

Anonymous said...

Dude OMG your rock after i figured how to change the files to m4r.. that was it LOL now i have many .. many ringtones thank you very much for your effort & help i'm really happy.

Head Honcho said...

Right on! Glad I could help.

Anonymous said...
Dude OMG your rock after i figured how to change the files to m4r.. that was it LOL now i have many .. many ringtones thank you very much for your effort & help i'm really happy.

Anonymous said...

I Just wanted to say Thank You WhoEver it works 100% For me!!
Now only if i could change my skins.
Keep up the good work Hackers and Thinkers!!

NewYork

Anonymous said...

Oh Yeah I'm on Windows Vista Ultimate x64 bit Now you gotta love That

NewYork

Head Honcho said...

You are welcome ... and thanks to those that have given their input and tips/suggestions!

Anonymous said...
I Just wanted to say Thank You WhoEver it works 100% For me!!
Now only if i could change my skins.
Keep up the good work Hackers and Thinkers!!

NewYork

Anonymous said...

i am having trouble converting the files to acc. I get a message that says protected files cannot be changed.

Help!!

Head Honcho said...

I think you have an m4p file. You can use a program like Hymn to convert it to an unprotected file.

http://www.hymn-project.org/

anonymous said...
i am having trouble converting the files to acc. I get a message that says protected files cannot be changed.

Help!!

adlostatsea said...

OK I got as far as getting the song converted and it even went to my ringtones folder on itunes but will not show up on my phone. I am so frustrated I even tried buying a song on itunes wich is a first and converting it but get some error and it wont let me. All I want is a cool ring tone. Please help

Head Honcho said...

Can you be specific about what exactly "some error" is and maybe I can help. If you purchased the track from iTunes, did you play at least once prior to trying to use it as a ringtone? It may just need to authorize itself first before iTunes will recognize it as a legitimate purchased track.

adlostatsea said...
OK I got as far as getting the song converted and it even went to my ringtones folder on itunes but will not show up on my phone. I am so frustrated I even tried buying a song on itunes wich is a first and converting it but get some error and it wont let me. All I want is a cool ring tone. Please help

Anonymous said...

everything works fine with me except that the ring tone appears in the itunes ringtones library with does not appears in the ringtone tab for the iphone neither in the iphone istself. Any ideas?

Anonymous said...

how do you pull up the ringtone in your phone once you have synced the phone

Head Honcho said...

For default ringtone:
Settings-->Sounds-->Ringtone

For Contact specific:
Phone-->Contacts-->Ringtone

anonymous said...
how do you pull up the ringtone in your phone once you have synced the phone

redlioness said...

thanks for the reply. even thought i go to settings/sounds/ringtones, it doesn't show the ringtone i created even thought it's saved in my ringtones? please help.

adlostatsea said...

(-42160) is the fail code with itunes. The only reason I am even concerned about itunes is because I just want to see if I can get a custom ring tone section on my phone. Is it possible for you to email me a ringtone you have made so I can see if it will work? I have followed all instructions to the T and it goes into my ringtones section but doesn't transfer onto my phone. My email is my nickname @yahoo.com. Thank you

Anonymous said...

Works perfectly when you dump the file from iTunes to the desktop, deleting the original in iTunes, then dropping it in your ringtones folder. I even used full songs as ringtones.

iTunes Version 7.6.0.29

Nice work.....

Head Honcho said...

That is an error code associated to the creation of a ringtone from an iTunes Plus song in 7.4. That problem was resolved in 7.5. If you haven't upgraded your iTunes, you might want to and see what happens.

adlostatsea said...
(-42160) is the fail code with itunes. The only reason I am even concerned about itunes is because I just want to see if I can get a custom ring tone section on my phone. Is it possible for you to email me a ringtone you have made so I can see if it will work? I have followed all instructions to the T and it goes into my ringtones section but doesn't transfer onto my phone. My email is my nickname @yahoo.com. Thank you

Anonymous said...

I managed to get the conversion completed with iTunes 7.6 and the latest Mac OS X update using your recommendations, however, when I transfer the m4r files from the Mac library to the iPhone ringtone library, the iPhone ringtone shows that each m4r file exists in the iPhone library but only updates the particular song being imported at the time overwriting the previously imported ringtone file. Any suggestions?

Head Honcho said...

Someone else had this issue. You are probably using the manual moving of ringtones to the iphone that was enabled in the last release of iTunes. It seems it doesn't work that well with manually transferring the ringtones. You can resolve this by using the Ringtones sync the old way via the ringtone tab ... but make sure to uncheck the "Manually Manage Music and Videos" option on the iPhone summary tab.

anonymous said...
I managed to get the conversion completed with iTunes 7.6 and the latest Mac OS X update using your recommendations, however, when I transfer the m4r files from the Mac library to the iPhone ringtone library, the iPhone ringtone shows that each m4r file exists in the iPhone library but only updates the particular song being imported at the time overwriting the previously imported ringtone file. Any suggestions?

Anonymous said...

I have done everything right. Renamed the file from m4a to m4r, the song apeared on the ringtone folder, but when I tried to sync with my Iphone there was this message "The muisic(name of the muisic) could not be copyed to your Iphone because it cannot be played on this Iphone.

I have Itunes 7.6 and the firmware apears a number 04.02.13_G

Any solutions?

Anonymous said...

can anyone confirm that this works with iPhone 1.1.1 because I have the same error when I try to sync as anynomous above

kate said...

same error as two previous posters. seems the fix has fixed it, after all.

Anonymous said...

my AAC converter is on and i followed the steps...after it converts the clip of the song i click on show in windows explorer..and it still says MPEG4..and when i rename it to .m4r and double click it, it doesnt do any thing...

Head Honcho said...

I know many people that are actively using this technique with no issues. Maybe some of these issues are computer specific based on the way it is configured.

A poster named Jonah had a tweak that seems to be pretty solid and I've seen the same sort of idea floating around on apple forums. I've consolidated it into this run down ... give it a try and see if it works better for your particular issue.

1. Under Edit-->Preferences-->Advanced, check the boxes for "Keep iTunes music folder organized" and "Copy files to iTunes music folder when adding to library"
2. Follow my steps on creating the 30 second clip and converting to AAC.
3. Delete the newly created AAC file from the iTunes library. Do NOT move the file to the trash.
4. Find the file in your iTunes music directory and move it to your desktop.
5. Rename the file extension from myringtone.m4a to myringtone.m4r (substitute 'myringtone' for whatever you want the ringtone called).
6. Double click on the .m4r file.
7. When iTunes comes back on screen, look in the iPhone ringtones tab to verify that the file is there (Do not sync!)
8. Find the file again in your iTunes Music/Ringtones Directory.
9. Rename the file from myringtone.m4r to myringtone.m4a
10. Sync


kate said...
same error as two previous posters. seems the fix has fixed it, after all.

Anonymous said...

I did what head honcho told.

Now I was able to put the file into the Iphone ringtones folder, but the ringtone does not apear in the Iphone when I try to use it.

PS: I couldn't do the step number 7, the ringtone didn't appear in the Iphone rigtones tab.

What shoud I do now?

Thanks

Anonymous said...

I did all the above, all the way to the end. I have my ringtone in the music files and it shows in the iTunes folder in the ringtone folder, sync'd with the phone, the tune I wanted went to the music folder but not to the ringtone on the phone. Computer says it did, but its not there. running itunes 7.6.0.29 and the iPhone I got this afternoon! brand spankin new

vanessa said...

Hi I have did all the steps necessary and it all seems good the ringtone goes to my ringtones folder then i plug in my iphone to sync it, it shows up in the rintones section i check the song and press sync but it never transfers over to my iphone. What should I do now?Please help i have been trying this for a long time with no result.

Anonymous said...

***It seems that you cannot do this with m4p files, which are protected content.

Any non-itunes protected content songs, it will work with. Try burnging the protected content to CD, and reimporting - it should work that way. I'm running 7.6.x and it works.

Anonymous said...

I am using mp3 files that have been converted to ACC format. Then renaming the extension to A4R. I just came back from my Apple store and the tech guy there said it could be that my phone was upgraded to firmware 1.1.3 He told me that 1.1.2 worked the way I described it, but Apple in their greed, disabled it. I cannot go back to 1.1.2, but I am going to try 7.5, not 7.6 Who knows. They tried to sell me a Mac that would use Garageband (which is an Apple product to make Ringtones), but Im not going to spend 2K to make ringtones

Anonymous said...

This works almost perfectly. I did have to do the delete and then hit the Keep File and then restart iTunes but if you play with it they appear in the iPhone list ... Thanks so much for finding all this out for us.

Anonymous said...

I posted the note starting off with I am using mp3 files...... I finally got it all to work!!! There was some dinking with it, but finally it's working. I will write about what I had to go through in a few days and post it. In the mean time, does anyone have any idea of how to add a "ringtone" for the mail function? I have the old "You've got mail" tune and I would like to add that to the incoming mail notification

binkybear said...

I have followed all instructions, even gotten the m4r file saved in itunes as a ringtone.. However, when I synk it is not in my ringtones file. Ive changed the extension (hhhhh .m4r to hhhh.m4r) and abck again with no success. Im using 1.1.3 & 7.6 versions...SOMEONE PLS HELP.... PLS *** pls email response(kp3868@att.com or sysqo81@aol.com)

Head Honcho said...

As far as I know, there isn't a way to change the mail notification. There may be if you have a jailbroken phone. I think I recall iBrickr having that ability. I could be wrong about that though.

Anonymous said...
I posted the note starting off with I am using mp3 files...... I finally got it all to work!!! There was some dinking with it, but finally it's working. I will write about what I had to go through in a few days and post it. In the mean time, does anyone have any idea of how to add a "ringtone" for the mail function? I have the old "You've got mail" tune and I would like to add that to the incoming mail notification

Björn said...

I'm using Iphone 1.1.1 and Itunes 7.6.0.29. The conversion works fine, and the ring tone appears in Itunes. When trying to sync I always get "Can not be used with your Iphone" message though. None of the solutions above has worked out.

Iphone 1.1.1 issue?

Head Honcho said...

I don't think it will work with 1.1.1 and iTunes 7.6. I believe that 1.1.1 and iTunes 7.4 could work using this method. After 7.4, apple "corrected" the hack for ringtones. However, 1.1.2 restored the custom ringtones.

Björn said...
I'm using Iphone 1.1.1 and Itunes 7.6.0.29. The conversion works fine, and the ring tone appears in Itunes. When trying to sync I always get "Can not be used with your Iphone" message though. None of the solutions above has worked out.

Iphone 1.1.1 issue?

Anonymous said...

Hey there...first off thanks for all the great advice....HOwever my issue is..I have did all the steps necessary and it all seems good the ringtone goes to my ringtons folder after i rename them all..then i plug in my iphone and sync it..then i drag all my ringtones into my iphone folder and its syncs..then when its done i look in my ringtones on my phone and there is all of them there BUT there all the same...just one song duplicated 5 times..any suggestions??Thanks

Head Honcho said...

That is a problem with manually dropping the ringtones onto the iPhone. The solution has been posted a couple times in the thread. Here is the run down again on fixing that.

Instead of manually dropping the ringtones onto the iPhone, uncheck the "Manually Manage Music and Videos" option on the iPhone summary tab. Then go to the ringtone tab and sync your ringtones the old fashion way. It will work, has been confirmed and all over the apple forums as the fix as well. Good luck!

Anonymous said...
Hey there...first off thanks for all the great advice....HOwever my issue is..I have did all the steps necessary and it all seems good the ringtone goes to my ringtons folder after i rename them all..then i plug in my iphone and sync it..then i drag all my ringtones into my iphone folder and its syncs..then when its done i look in my ringtones on my phone and there is all of them there BUT there all the same...just one song duplicated 5 times..any suggestions??Thanks

Anonymous said...

Thanks very much. It worked very well with iTunes 7.5
and 1.1.3

New York

endit331 said...

Howdy,
I've got 7.6 and the newest iphone update and this fix isn't working for me. When I go to convert to AAC it tells me that it can't do it because it can't change the format of a protected file. Help!

Head Honcho said...

You can't use protected files. You can do one of two things if you really want to use the protected file as your ringtone. You can use a program like hymn (http://www.hymn-project.org/) to unprotect it ... OR ... you can just burn the song as a music disc and then reimport the song into iTunes as an aac file.

endit331 said...
Howdy,
I've got 7.6 and the newest iphone update and this fix isn't working for me. When I go to convert to AAC it tells me that it can't do it because it can't change the format of a protected file. Help!

Steven said...

Worked Perfectly.

Will it last?

Head Honcho said...

Man I hope so! If it does, someone will figure out a way to continue making your own custom ringtones. If people can figure out the jailbreaking, I would think the ringtone hack would be cake!

Steven said...
Worked Perfectly.

Will it last?

Anonymous said...

I know this blog is about ringtones, so perhaps the head honcho can direct me to the proper place. My wife and I have two different devices (iphone and ipod, his and hers) My iTunes will not recognize two seperate devices on my lap top (XP o.s.) I get an error msg when I plug her iPhone into the port, where as if I plug my iPod into her computer same thing. I want to have all her info and all my info on my lap top so when we travel, we can update as we go.

Head Honcho said...

Is it an error message or just a message saying that the device is set to sync with another computer? If your wife has her own computer and she has synced her iPod with that computer, she will not be able to then plug it into your computer to sync. The iPhone is a slightly different story. You can plug the iPhone into 2 different computers and sync to some degree. I do it on a regular basis. You can NOT sync the iPhone portion against 2 different computers. For example, when at home, I sync only my music on my mac. When I'm in the office, I sync my contacts only with outlook on my work computer. If it were to try and sync music, it would give me a message saying that the phone has another user database on it and it would prompt me to overwrite that info with my iTunes on my work computer.

If your wife's iPod is an older model, there are some applications that you can use to sync outside of iTunes that may allow you to bypass the warning that you are getting when plugging her ipod into your laptop. Might want to google alternative sync for ipod. There are a couple that work on XP ... but I can't remember what they are off the top of my head.

The easiest thing of course, is to just set both devices up on the same machine and sync using your laptop.

anonymous said...
I know this blog is about ringtones, so perhaps the head honcho can direct me to the proper place. My wife and I have two different devices (iphone and ipod, his and hers) My iTunes will not recognize two seperate devices on my lap top (XP o.s.) I get an error msg when I plug her iPhone into the port, where as if I plug my iPod into her computer same thing. I want to have all her info and all my info on my lap top so when we travel, we can update as we go.

timothy james said...

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Anonymous said...

Hi Head Hancho,
I have followed all your directions very closley and when i plugged in my iphone which is the 8G Iphone V.1.1.1 and it always comes up that this song cant be added to your iphone..and I read that this problem has happened to some people and i couldnt really find an answer yet unless i have overlooked it..Do you have any other suggestions?? Thanks

Anonymous said...

when I find the itunes music directory there is no m4a at any of the ends of my songs wht do i do??? plz help

Head Honcho said...

To view your file extensions, open your windows explorer and select Tools-->Folder Options from the menu. Click on the View tab and uncheck the box that says "Hide extensions for known file types". Then click the "Apply to All Folders" button at the top of the screen.

anonymous said...
when I find the itunes music directory there is no m4a at any of the ends of my songs wht do i do??? plz help

Martin said...

I'm not sure if anyone realizes this, but you can also follow these instructions to make custom ringtones for your blackberry too. My 8300 plays .m4a files, so by selecting any song in iTunes I can select start & end times & then convert to AAC. After that it's just a matter of finding the file and copying it to the 8300 in its ringtone folder. Easiest thing ever!

Ringtone Pirate said...

Following Beeg's steps, this worked on iTunes 7.6 with iPhone 1.1.3 - Thanks.

Btw, I used iTunes to select the first 30 seconds to AAC. I had one song that was already an AAC, so I first made an MP3, then converted back to AAC after selecting the first 30 seconds. Worked like a charm, just be careful what files you delete and move.

Paul

Anonymous said...

PEOPLE!!

THIS REALLY WORKS!!! THANKS !!!!!!!! I ACTUALLY GOT 25 RINGTONES ON MY IPHONE!!!

Anonymous said...

hey thanks a lot for the detailed instructions...worked like a charm (mac g4 using 1.1.3 and itunes 7.6)
the problem i was having was that i was transferring songs that were too long...the 30 second song is the key!

Anonymous said...

hi, has anyone had any issues with the latest upgrade from apple? Also, any word on the new tdk? Thanks

Anonymous said...

I meant afk

Anonymous said...

I've been trying all of these for a bit now and can't get any to work. I'm hung up at the part of having it show in the iphone ringtones folder.

Trying on a new 16g phone and itunes 7.6.0.29

Anonymous said...

Don't know how to edit my previous post but just found this video and not even sure exactly what's different but it worked and that's all I care about!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bf65uChjlfM

John said...

thank you thank you thank you!!! The youtube video posted above helped out as well.

Head Honcho said...

The SDK is still slated to come out in Feb. I'm sure that there are a few companies out there that already have the SDK and are actively developing applications right now. Wouldn't be much of a release without some applications ready for download for those of us that are ready to see what can be created with the SDK!

Anonymous said...
hi, has anyone had any issues with the latest upgrade from apple? Also, any word on the new tdk? Thanks

Rachel said...

Have iPhone 1.1.3 and version 7.6 - NOT SYNCING AT ALL. Tells me the file is not there, could not be found. Only hitch comes when I try to sync - have already tried changing file name to .m4a from .m4r while it's in the ringtones file. Any advice?

Anonymous said...

Hey Head Honcho i got the .m4r file to open up on my itunes (7.6) im running on a mac the only problem is that the ringtone doest play on the iphone (1.1.3) any solutions?

Anonymous said...

Hey, this worked great, I have 3 ringtones now, but can only put one on my iphone at a time. If I put a second or third ringtone on the phone, it just shows up on my phone as the first ringtone repeated. Any help?

Head Honcho said...

This question has been posted many times and so has the solution. Look in my Q&A section in the post ... it is the very first question and answer. Basically you have the iPhone set for manual management. Follow the two steps I listed in the answer and it will work. I know you will be happy when it does! Good luck!

Anonymous said...
Hey, this worked great, I have 3 ringtones now, but can only put one on my iphone at a time. If I put a second or third ringtone on the phone, it just shows up on my phone as the first ringtone repeated. Any help?

Head Honcho said...

Maybe the ringtone is longer than 30 seconds? Since you are on a mac, try using MakeiPhoneRingtone. You can find it at http://www.rogueamoeba.com/freebies/. It basically uses the same sort of hack, but it bypasses having to use iTunes for the sync part of the ringtone and writes straight to the iPhone. Try that and see if you have better luck.


anonymous said...
Hey Head Honcho i got the .m4r file to open up on my itunes (7.6) im running on a mac the only problem is that the ringtone doest play on the iphone (1.1.3) any solutions?

Anonymous said...

Thanks!!!! i really appreciate the recommendation for MakeiPhoneRingtone it worked great i now have as many ringtones as i want FREE =]! thanks again

Anonymous said...

i ve done everything right..but in the end,,when i try to sync it..it ses that could not be found..how is this??..

Anonymous said...

Thank you so much, I really appreciate the simple but brilliant solution! Works perfectly on iPhone 1.1.3 with iTunes 7.6 on my macbook. I use the 'update' method (dumped from itunes, then import m4r from desktop). I'm now happily listening to all my custom ringtones. Thanks for taking the time to share this... :)

Head Honcho said...

You are welcome!

Anonymous said...
Thank you so much, I really appreciate the simple but brilliant solution! Works perfectly on iPhone 1.1.3 with iTunes 7.6 on my macbook. I use the 'update' method (dumped from itunes, then import m4r from desktop). I'm now happily listening to all my custom ringtones. Thanks for taking the time to share this... :)

Kevin Doyle said...

Cheers buddy. Much appreciated for us new users who don't want to have to pay the "hostage money" to Apple.

Anonymous said...

Where is the itunes directory

Head Honcho said...

Depending on the platform, it can be in one of a couple places. Easiest way to find it is in iTunes preferences. Under the 'Advanced' --> 'General' tab, you will see ''iTunes Music folder location".

Anonymous said...
Where is the itunes directory

Anonymous said...

this did not work for me. i did everything then when the file is on the desktop and i go to change the name ".m4a" is not there, just the name of the song. so i just added the ".m4r" but it still did not work. (i do not have a mac)

Head Honcho said...

I think all you did was create a file called "[filename].m4r.m4a", which doesn't work. As far as how to see the extensions ... at the end of the post there is a section called 'Q&A with Head Honcho (aka "I followed your steps but ...")'. Read that section and your question will be answered.

Anonymous said...
this did not work for me. i did everything then when the file is on the desktop and i go to change the name ".m4a" is not there, just the name of the song. so i just added the ".m4r" but it still did not work. (i do not have a mac)

Matty said...

you are a fucking legend my friend, this works fine, a child could do it!!!

Anonymous said...

i got 1.1.3 7.6 and i go to my music directory and change file nae to .m4r and double click and it puts my ringtone back into my music library. how do i get a ringtone folder or wat else cani do?

Head Honcho said...

You could do one of two things. Either just create a folder in your iTunes music folder called 'Ringtones' ... OR ... go into your iTunes preferences under the advanced tab and check the box that says 'Keep iTunes Music Folder organized' and also the one that says 'Copy files to iTunes Music folder when adding to library'. iTunes will create the folder for you when you double click the ringtone file.

Anonymous said...
i got 1.1.3 7.6 and i go to my music directory and change file nae to .m4r and double click and it puts my ringtone back into my music library. how do i get a ringtone folder or wat else cani do?

Anonymous said...

ANOTHER TIP: Everyone having trouble moving your m4r files into ringtones cause it just keeps going back into the library?? Well, it was pissing me off too, for a week in fact, till i downloaded the latest itunes version 7.6.1. now it works amazingly well, just follow head honcho's instructions. I was using 7.4.1 previously and tried everything. GET THE LATEST VERSION, hope this helps! And thanks to everyone who's posted advice, especially head honcho, you're awesome, keep up the good work! oh, and i've iphone version 1.1.3

Head Honcho said...

Thanks for the kind words!

Yep ... you are correct that it didn't work in 7.4. 7.4 broke the functionality and it was restored in 7.5 ... hence the first line in the post. :) I actually made several posts in this thread about how it wouldn't work in 7.4. Doesn't hurt to be in the thread again since who really wants to scan through all those comments anyway!

FYI to everyone ... there is an EdZachary search tool on each page that will only search the contents of this blog. You can use it to find pieces of info if you don't want to scan all the comments ... which I can't blame you for not reading all of that stuff! :)

Anonymous said...
ANOTHER TIP: Everyone having trouble moving your m4r files into ringtones cause it just keeps going back into the library?? Well, it was pissing me off too, for a week in fact, till i downloaded the latest itunes version 7.6.1. now it works amazingly well, just follow head honcho's instructions. I was using 7.4.1 previously and tried everything. GET THE LATEST VERSION, hope this helps! And thanks to everyone who's posted advice, especially head honcho, you're awesome, keep up the good work! oh, and i've iphone version 1.1.3

Anonymous said...

For statistical purposes - these steps work great with the latest versions: iTunes 7.6.1.9 & iPhone 1.1.4.

Anonymous said...

i right click on get info and it seems to be protected or something but i cant add or change the file! i have gotten a few "FREE" ringtones from iphonerings, any other site like this one you know of?

Anonymous said...

Thanks a lot for this tip! I've tried a lot of programs that were way more complicated in trying to make and add my ringtones, and this one has been the best and easiest yet! let's hope Apple doesn't catch it =)

Anonymous said...

nkwell it does NOT WORK with iTunes 7.6.1.9 and FW 1.1.4 all it does is ad a new file to iTunes as a ringtone but NOT to the ringtone folder and it will not load to my iPhone

Damon.

Head Honcho said...

@Damon

I've got 40 ringtones on my iPhone that say otherwise. Maybe you haven't followed the steps correctly or read through some of the suggestions of those that had unique issues. Good luck!

Anonymous said...

I have iTunes 7.6.1.9 and firmware 1.1.4. It worked for me, even though iTunes said the ring tone was not copied over because it could not be found. But it IS now on my phone! Thanks to all.....

Anonymous said...

hello

Anonymous said...

hi, can I download the new s d k on a windows pc? If I can, what programs are available for free? Any input would be appreciated!

Head Honcho said...

The SDK will not run on a windows pc. Having the SDK doesn't give you any programs. It is a development kit for programmers so that they can build applications for the rest of us to use. The next firmware release will enable those applications, built by the programmers using the SDK, to run on the iPhone. It is exciting for the developers community ... not so much as of yet for the rest of us.


Anonymous said...
hi, can I download the new s d k on a windows pc? If I can, what programs are available for free? Any input would be appreciated

Anonymous said...

Hi i'm using iTunes 7.6 and iPhone 1.1.3 but the steps are not working the ringtones are added to the ringtones tab alright but when i try to sync 'em it simply says these ringtones can't be played on this iPhone plz plz help me out

Anonymous said...

Hello,

Im using Windows XP/ iPhone s/w version 1.0.2 and iTunes 7.6 version my problem is really weird i performed the following steps:
Opened iTunes Edit > Preferences > Advanced Check “Keep iTunes Music folder organized” Check “Copy files to iTunes Music folder when adding to library”
Plcd ringtones with .m4r extenstion in Ringtones tab by doubleclicking i brought 'em there that is
Opened the “Ringtones” folder that iTunes created in \Music\iTunes\iTunes Music\Ringtones Renamed all the m4r files to m4a
Try to sync but it fails because it cannot find the m4r files (this is good)
Look at playlist created in iTunes with a bunch of X’s next to each ringtone
Double click each ringtone (hit browse for the file, and selected each m4a file from the folder in my \Music\iTunes\iTunes Music\Ringtones)
Hit sync again
and yes they are sycn i saw em being sync but they are not present anywhere in my iphone where the hell they go2 not in settings>Sound>Ringtone and not even in ipod playlists plz help me add my own ringtones in the god damn phone i have wasted 14 hours over it plz plz plz plzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

spence2596 said...

WORKS GREATTTT!!!! Why would anyone pay an extra dollar to make a song on itunes less than 1/4 as long to have as their ringtone....

Anonymous said...

it worked perfectly for me on my itunes 7.6.1.9. You are genius. Thank you so much. I am so happy to be past the lame ringtones that come with my iphone. Now, if you only have some tips to make my AT&T service work a little better :-)

Anonymous said...

can someone please help? I have a newer iPhone , I'm trying to dl something like flash player or something so I can view animated stuff, but nothing will dl, any suggestions?

Head Honcho said...

Well ... it's goes something like this. There is no flash support for iPhone as of yet. I think Adobe is interested in building something iPhone capable. As far as downloading goes ... that's a big no as well. Can't install anything on the iPhone since it is closed, nor is there a disk mode ... so no downloading. I know ... sucks right?

Anonymous said...
can someone please help? I have a newer iPhone , I'm trying to dl something like flash player or something so I can view animated stuff, but nothing will dl, any suggestions?

Anonymous said...

yes, that sux big time! Thank you though

hope said...

everything works but the ringtone won't show up on my phone.
it shows up in my ringtone folder on itunes.
and where it says sync.
i click sync and it still doesn't show up in my ringtones.
any clue why?

Anonymous said...

Well i've been trying it on my iphone version 1.1.4 and itunes version 7.6.2 and everything works except it will not sync on my iphone -- I see it in my ringtones section but not in my phoen- for the first one it didn't give me an error message but I still didn't get it and for the second one I made it said the file could not be found.

Katerina said...

hey man thanks a lot for your help, it did work for me from the very first time, those who can't get it to work...just follow the steps... it's pretty much straightforward :-))
thanks ones again, you are a star ))))
cheers,
Kate

Lv4Tunes said...

Hey -

Have iPhone 1.1.4 and iTunes 7.6.1.9 and there is something that is not working.

The file works - in my music library...tried every which way to move it into the folder.

It moved, but when I look in iTunes under Ringtones, the file is not there...

Any advice?

Anonymous said...

can someone help, I bought a 16 gb unlocked iPhone, using AT&T , I had 8 gb not unlocked and everything worked fine, now I can't seem to link up my email like before and also the you tube won't work, does AT&T know this isn't my 8 gig? Any fixes, also is there any easier way to get ringtones as I am jail broken? Thanks all

Head Honcho said...

If you are jailbroken, you can find a package called SendSong (if my memory isn't failing me). I've mentioned it before in this thread. You can send any music file that you currently have on the iPhone directly to your ringtone folder on the iphone. It does some other things like email any song on your iphone. Handy little app.

Anonymous said...
can someone help, I bought a 16 gb unlocked iPhone, using AT&T , I had 8 gb not unlocked and everything worked fine, now I can't seem to link up my email like before and also the you tube won't work, does AT&T know this isn't my 8 gig? Any fixes, also is there any easier way to get ringtones as I am jail broken? Thanks all

Anonymous said...

i followed all the steps but when i try to sync the ringtone to my iphone it says syncing in progress but the ringtone doesnt show up on my phone. Im confused can someone please tell me what im doing wrong?

A C said...

Nice info on this page. But it seems like on the newest versions of itunes (7.6) and the iphone (1.1.4), there is a problem actually syncing to the iphone (like everyone else is having problems with). Every method described above has been tried over and over, but no results. Has Apple finally removed this trick? What's going on with the syncing problems? Thanks

Anonymous said...

I uninstalled iTunes 7.6 and reinstall...Next change name for 1 of the ringtone with a space before m4R and tried again... surprisingly sync problem between iTunes 7.6 & iPhone 1.14 resolved!!!!!!

Head Honcho said...

Sweet! Maybe you just solved a problem that others were having as well! You are a genius!

Anonymous said...
I uninstalled iTunes 7.6 and reinstall...Next change name for 1 of the ringtone with a space before m4R and tried again... surprisingly sync problem between iTunes 7.6 & iPhone 1.14 resolved!!!!!!

Head Honcho said...

Hmmm ... I've never been able to emulate this problem on any machine that I've tried. It's always flat out worked for me ... with the exception of an old G4 mac that needed the space before the .m4r.

Someone mentioned (if it is you, then I apologize) that they had the same problem and that reinstalling itunes did the trick. It shouldn't delete any of your tunes, but it definitely will rebuild your music library. Maybe that is the issue. The library file could just be tainted. Maybe as a goof, just try to rebuild your library. Should be as easy as changing the name of your iTunes music folder from "iTunes Music" (assuming that is the default name) to "iTunesMusic" for example ... or anything else that you want. Then go into the preferences and set the itunes library to point to the "new" location. iTunes will read all the files and build a new library file.


A C said...
Nice info on this page. But it seems like on the newest versions of itunes (7.6) and the iphone (1.1.4), there is a problem actually syncing to the iphone (like everyone else is having problems with). Every method described above has been tried over and over, but no results. Has Apple finally removed this trick? What's going on with the syncing problems? Thanks

rob said...

I used the steps that worked for Beeg. I have 1.1.4 and itunes 7.6.2.9. It worked like a charm where all else had failed. The trick I think is copying the .m4a to another directory (in this case the desktop), then renaming the extension to .m4r. I noticed when I did this, the icon in XP changed to a "ringtone" icon, whereas before it was just a "music" icon. When I double-clicked on it, it imprted automagically into itunes as a ringtone, synced up perfectly, and I could see and use it on the iphone. Thanks.

Anonymous said...

so I'm following every step but I my computer won't allow me to drag the file to the desktop. I have iTunes 7.6. Is it because I have leopard??

Anonymous said...

i am creating more then one ring tone, i did your first method, but instead of puttin the m4r version onto the library i just move it to the ringtones section of my iphone, the only problem is when i did it to the other m4rs that i want as ringtones they show up correctly under itunes and play right but under my iphone itself, they show up as the 1st m4r that i put on it. is there any way to fix this problem? i have itunes 7.5 and am running on a 1.1.4 firmwire

Head Honcho said...

The answer has been posted several times in this thread. Here it is again ... Stop manually trying to move the ringtones. Follow the directions with no deviation and it will work. Uncheck the box under options that says 'Manually manage music and video' on the iPhone summary page. Make sure that the ringtone has a name and artist listed. Then sync the old fashion way. You should be golden after that. I might have given a better explanation elsewhere in the thread ... so maybe scroll through the comments ... I know ... there are a lot. I believe it is also under the Q&A part of the post as well. Its the same problem as syncing several ringtones and only the last one synced plays. I think it is the first item in the Q&A section. Good luck!!

Anonymous said...
i am creating more then one ring tone, i did your first method, but instead of puttin the m4r version onto the library i just move it to the ringtones section of my iphone, the only problem is when i did it to the other m4rs that i want as ringtones they show up correctly under itunes and play right but under my iphone itself, they show up as the 1st m4r that i put on it. is there any way to fix this problem? i have itunes 7.5 and am running on a 1.1.4 firmwire

Brian said...

Thank you so much! It works for my iPhone!

Anonymous said...

Ok it works for me on iTune 7.6.2.9and iPhone 1.1.4. Please follow everything what Beggs said. You might have difficulty after you change the file extension from .m4a to .m4r...you might not see the file on ringtone folder on your itune. In that case please go to

Computer (or any other folder) on Vista. (If you have XP go to My Computer, Tools, Folder Options)
Go to Organize then Folder and Search Options.
Go to View tab and uncheck Hide extensions for known filetypes.
Now go to the file and you can change the extension.

This will allow you to see if you have type the .m4r extion or not. It may appear that you have .m4r and .m4a so please delete the .m4a and the file icon should change it to RING (instead of music)

I hope this helps. I think this steps can help many ppl and should be included in main post because it seems like lots of ppl having the same trouble.

Head Honcho said...

Thanks for the suggestion. It actually has been in the main post since about a week after creating it. I consolidated the best 'tricks' and 'hints' into the Q&A section right below the main set of instructions. Maybe you missed it. Jonah and Beegs suggestions were also added to the main post the day they posted because I felt that what was being suggested could really help people in the same situation ... not to mention putting it at the top so that people don't have to scroll through all the posts to find it.

I'm glad it worked for you!

Anonymous said...
Ok it works for me on iTune 7.6.2.9and iPhone 1.1.4. Please follow everything what Beggs said. You might have difficulty after you change the file extension from .m4a to .m4r...you might not see the file on ringtone folder on your itune. In that case please go to

Computer (or any other folder) on Vista. (If you have XP go to My Computer, Tools, Folder Options)
Go to Organize then Folder and Search Options.
Go to View tab and uncheck Hide extensions for known filetypes.
Now go to the file and you can change the extension.

This will allow you to see if you have type the .m4r extion or not. It may appear that you have .m4r and .m4a so please delete the .m4a and the file icon should change it to RING (instead of music)

I hope this helps. I think this steps can help many ppl and should be included in main post because it seems like lots of ppl having the same trouble.

NicoleGW said...

Worked perfectly! I followed the steps precisely and had no problems. I'm running Windows Vista and iTunes 7.6.

Thanks for the instructions!

Anonymous said...

Nice job! I followed the steps precisely and had no problems. I'm running Windows Vista and iTunes 7.6.

Nice !!!!

Robbie said...

This worked like a charm, and I'm running iTunes 7.6.2. on Leopard. This is a great loop whole to they system! Thanks!

Anonymous said...

Man U are a genius. U should write an email to Apple about it. I wan't to see their faces whe they will be reading it.

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